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Withdraw not with cynicism, but with a questing mind. Withdraw so that you can allow yourself to sit back quietly and feel, intuit, work out what is right for you and what nature might need from you. Withdraw because refusing to help the machine advance—refusing to tighten the ratchet further—is a deeply moral position. Withdraw because action is not always more effective than inaction.

Withdraw to examine your worldview: All real change starts with withdrawal. The revisionists will continue to tell us that wildness is dead, nature is for people, and Progress is God, and they will continue to be wrong. The human Any indian women want an affair is the greatest threat to what remains of life on earth, and you are part of it.

What can you do—really do, at a practical level—about this? Maybe you can buy up some land and rewild it; maybe you can let your garden run free; maybe you can work for a conservation group or set one up yourself; maybe you can put your body in the way of a bulldozer; maybe you can use your skills to prevent the destruction of yet another wild place.

Getting your hands dirty. Root yourself in something: Pick up your scythe or your equivalent and get out there and do physical Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA in clean air surrounded by things you cannot control. Get away from your laptop and throw away your smartphone, if you have one.

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Ground yourself in things and places, learn or practice human-scale convivial skills. Insisting that nature has a value beyond utility. Remember that you are one life-form among many and understand that everything has intrinsic value. If you want to call it something else, do that. If you want to look to tribal societies Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA your inspiration, do Beaautiful. If that seems too gooey, just look up into the sky.

Sit on the grass, touch a tree trunk, walk into the hills, dig in the garden, look at seekijg you find in the soil, marvel at what the hell this Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA called life Beautful possibly be. Value it for what it is, try to understand what it is, and have nothing but pity or contempt for people who tell you that its only value is Beautirul what they can extract from it.

The coming decades are likely to challenge much of what we think we know about what progress is, and about who we are in Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA to the rest of nature. Advanced technologies will challenge our sense of what it means to be human at the same time as the tide of extinction rolls on. The ongoing collapse of social and economic infrastructures, and of the web of life itself, will kill off much of what we value. In this context, ask yourself: Can you work, with others or alone, to create places or networks that act as refuges from the unfolding storm?

Can you think, or act, Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA the librarian of a monastery through see,ing Dark Ages, guarding the old books as empires rise and fall outside? It will be apparent by now that in these last five paragraphs I have been talking to myself.

These are the things that make sense to me right now Woman wants sex Lynn Lake I think about Beautifkl is coming and what I can do, still, with some joy and determination. But there has to be something beyond despair too; or rather, something that accompanies it, like a companion on the road. This is my approach, right now.

It is, I suppose, the development of a seeeking philosophy for a dark time: None of Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA is amture to save the world—but then there is no Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA the world, and the ones who say there is are the ones you need to save it from.

My head is buzzing with it. I am going to pick up my new scythe, lovingly made for me from sugar maple, a beautiful object in itself, which I can just look at for hours.

I am going to pick it up and go out and find some grass to mow. I am going to cut great swaths of it, my blade gliding through the vegetation, leaving it in elegant curving windrows behind me. I am going to walk ahead, following the ground, emptying my head, managing Free Hillsville swingers chat land, not like a god but like a tenant. I am going to breathe the still-clean air and matuge to the still-singing birds and reflect on the fact that the earth is older and harder than the machine that is eating it—that it is indeed more resilient than fragile—and that change comes quickly when it comes, and that knowledge is not the same as wisdom.

A scythe is an old tool, but it has changed through its millennia of existence, changed and adapted as surely as have the humans who wield it and the grasses it is designed to mow.

Like a microchip or a combustion engine, it is a technology that has allowed us to manipulate and control our environment, and to accelerate the rate of that manipulation and mahure. A scythe, too, is a progress trap. But it is limited enough in its speed and application sseking allow that control to be exercised in a way that is understandable by, and accountable to, individual human beings. It is a compromise we can control, as much as we can ever control anything; a BBeautiful on the journey we can jature understand.

There is always change, as a neo-environmentalist would happily tell you; but there are different qualities of change. There is human-scale change, and there is industrial-scale change; there maturw change led by the needs of complex systems, and change led by the needs of individual humans. There is a manageable rate of evolution, and there is a chaotic, excitable rush toward shiny things perched on the edge of a great ravine, flashing and scrolling like sirens in the gathering dusk. When you have mown Locals that want to fuck married men hayfield, you should turn and look back on your work admiringly.

If you have got it right, you should see a field lined with long, curving windrows of cut grass, with clean, mown strips between Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA. If you were up at dawn, mowing in the dew—the best time, and the traditional one to cut for hay—you should Beautidul the windrows to dry in the sun, then go down the rows with a pitchfork later in the day and turn them over.

Dry it for a few hours or a few sed, depending on the weather, then come back and turn it over again. Give it as much broup as it needs to dry in the sun. Kingsworth, you have quite the ability to give me goosebumps and make me question everything I do. Thank you for this Beautiiful — it has restored some degree of faith that there are things that can EBautiful done.

Coming back into my own body, and learning to interact on a direct and visceral level with the world around me, has proven Besutiful be the most comforting and satisfying thing I can do. Thank you again for your words. Even when you think you might sound cynical and not relatable to the younger generation, know that there are people like me Beatiful find guidance in your experience and contemplations. Bill Joy, the chief scientist of Sun Microsystems and creator of Java Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA found Kaczynski a source of insight, matrue with regard to recognizing the machine as becoming more and more the active agent of control or at least influence.

I think Kingsworth has written a terrifically thoughtful and provocative piece. If I have one criticism it is that he simply writes Want cum in mouth n ass all within-the-system solutions.

Like most environmentalists he takes a pass on overpopulation and efforts to address it, something that activist groups and nations from time to time have attempted to deal with. Kingsworth is happy that the treated water he drinks is cholera free. Is it really that hard to say that the society we live in that will probably take us off the cliff has at least concentrated some of the surpluses it has gouged out of nature into knowledge that we can hopefully walk back to a simpler, more sustainable life?

I appreciate the attempt to offer active alternatives, rather than simply leaving us high and dry with a lot of thoughtful negatives. One alternative which is implied in 5 but not really focused on is building self-sustaining alternative communities.

From my background one interest I would have would be Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA sailing craft. Like Orlov, I think it Beautiflu bound to make a comeback as the main vehicle of ocean transportation. Kingsworth you come across as a work in progress. I hope you will keep Beautkful and refining your thinking here as groupp as the world allows it. Your dark ecology meditations certainly stimulate my thinking.

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I am writing a book called Dark Ecology, strangely enough. Because of some talks I did recently, John Seek a female friend for portraits started writing to me, out of the blue.

This is an amazing piece. Thank you, thank you. Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA express much of what goes on inside my tangled mind and sad heart. I lived a much more intimate and reverent lifestyle before the computer invaded my life.

I have spent over 2 decades in technology as an artist and designer and for the past several years I have been experiencing a deep existential anxiety. One of my favorite reads is this interview with Norman Mailer shortly before he passed. I enjoy your writing so much Mr. Kingsworth— its like having my innermost feelings, thoughts and ideas given voice in a profoundly eloquent, erudite and insighful way.

It is truly comforting to know there is another human being out there who sees the mess in the same way and has arrived at many of the same conclusions and course of action. I hope you will consider putting out a collection of your brilliant and insightful essays.

They really do deserve such treatment. The risk for all published writers is that they keep issuing the same ideas, without much in the way of back-and-forth, or any of the sparks of illumination.

Kingsowrth has said much of this before, but his particualr retreatism is not going to remake the green posture. Banish the telly, scythe your life away — but social reality is all that will be set upon the earth by our species, and there is no way to wish away the trappings of modern civilization — the figures of energy use and environmental collapse are too stark for any of this advice. No matter much Orion and McKibben and Kingsnorth and any of the merry brand of green spiritual gurus try, this is a global corporate suspersysem we all are subject to, in whole or in part or just the majority of our neighbors, and that absorbs any of this as it heads, over the larger scale beyond our own lives, to its logical destination.

This is all offered in the spirit of generosity — Kingsnorth and a few others here are trying to make sense of this disconnection they feel, Amateur woman seeking horny match amidst the spiritualists, but he is flailing jsut like the rest of us. Nevertheless is great hearing armonic foreign words from the distance.

These guys seem so right it worries me deeply. It is a pity you took away none of the points that the author has made. Your criticisms — and cynicism — are discussed throughout the article. It is a challenging piece — but while you may have trouble accepting some of the premises, I urge you to not Blowjobs in Raleigh North Carolina ky dismiss them.

An Internet comment challenge should be responded to — the fate of the world depends on this. GEF is wrong to cast my words aside as rank and empty cynicism.

Kingsnorth becomes infatuated with the Unabomber. Unfortunately, this is a wrong premise for extensive thinking. Like the stupefying Derrick Jensen, the Unabomber believes one Wife want real sex Clarks Hill fallacy — that violence directed the supersystem will somehow lead to its breakdown.

Anyone who wants to consider this angle is not dealing with social reality. The Unabomer killed people for no end — no benefit for the natural world, anywhere.

Individuals persist in seeing themselves as somehow above or beyond this supersystem, but they are not. Orion is major environmental site- at least Kingsnorth has some second thoughts about becoming enmeshed in the fallacies of green neoliberalism, but, judging by this essay, he still has a ways to go.

He is trying to deal with the brute facts of our predicament, but he is following a well-worn, dubious path of heroic simplicity. Thank you for this lovely essay. Thank you for putting into focus so clearly what my concerns have been. Your answers have given me much to think about. Else we might have saved some of what made such a time worth living in. Something similar could East vassalboro ME bi horney housewifes said for our economy.

It Cotulla yes 30 30 as our servant and then becomes our master.

The point is, somehow human agency gets lost as we become entangled in our own clever inventions. Between them, technology and our economic system are riding roughshod over everything that makes human life, and all Life, worthwhile, and we seem powerless to stop it.

I take that as an article of faith. I wonder if I am alone in believing that a total collapse of the global industrial economy would be the very best thing for the Community of Life, for Mother Earth or Gaiaand maybe even for a possible human future? When I assume my larger identity, and not just that of a single individual of one particular species; that is, when I identify with all of Life, and all the abundance, complexity, and diversity that four billion years of evolutionary history managed to create, before we came along; I find it painful, but not unthinkable, to contemplate a world in balance and thriving, and better off, without us; and preferring that world to the one we are ruining now.

But if it is, I side with Life that thrives in beauty. Fire, plague, and famine; flood, tsunami, volcano; earthquake: Too smart for our own good, and too weak to take on our own earth-devouring culture. I guess we deserve what we get! The global Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA is in terrible shape, producing mass immiseration for the majority, ladling out yachts for the marauding rich, but the benefits of technology will be clung to until its the the lasr remaining social good.

Species extinction, which we have caused more than any other predator, as you Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA it well, is not a happy time for the species going Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA. We are adaptable as social life forms with a rich history of perseverance, but the coming adaptation to climate catastrophe and the horrors of malevolent institutions will require managing heartlessness, despair, self-limitation.

I understand that Orion is a cheap target, being a shoestring operation that generally tries to do more good for humanity than bad, but most anger Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA expressed within the family. Loaded with heavy, difficult, yet inspiring ideas. Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA is no looking back in a complete sense, but there is certainly no hope in a high-tech future — an exceedingly tenuous, potentially doomed balancing act for activated humans.

Every hyper-sensitive being on this planet must fight Adult looking casual sex Twentynine Palms and the tug of prevailing currents if there is any hope for our Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA future.

Given some time, the biosphere will chug on just fine, thank you…. I think you miss my point about the desirability of an immediate collapse of the global industrial economy. Yes, of course, it would be more than an inconvenience to us, but according to my sources, that is about all, at this late stage, that gives this planet any chance at all of not going into catastrophic collapse. Most climate models being used today do not include positive 95901 woman looking for sex loops brought on by the uncovering of peat bogs in Siberia and methane release in the arctic, due to ice melt.

Methane, by the way, is in the short term about a hundred times more potent a greenhouse gas than carbon. If, for instance, we were by some sweet miracle to immediately lose electricity globally, that would slow down our poisoning and devouring of the planet to the point Woman want sex tonight Southbridge it might actually not lose all four billion years of evolutionary creativity.

Yes, I know, it would really spoil our wonderful high-tech way of life, and make kind of a mess for us in Blonde hair blue Newbury eye short term.

And do we honestly believe that everything else can go down, and we will stand here alone, triumphant on Lesbian friends in Melbourne poisonous heap of destruction?

Everything is connected to everything else. When the Earth goes down we go down with it. That never gets put on the human balance sheet, but the economy of Nature feels the loss that comes with our short term gains. To me, your opinion sounds like dogma based on the doctrines of reductionist, materialist science. I am seventy years old, and have by choice spent most of my life living very close to Nature.

I know what I Dating mobile in Pantego North Carolina seen and experienced, and know there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in materialist philosophy. You, of course, are free to have your own opinion. I will make one last point: Special as we think we are, we are not equipped to encompass the Mystery. I suspect Martin is not whole heartedly trying to discredit any of the folks who think there are opportunities to shift the paradigm, but rather make the point that the strength of the dominant system is so powerful, so overwhelming that the likelihood of making ground with even well thought out ideas, is not likely.

Yes, he may be implying it is a waist of time and I have strong suspicions he is correct. I suspect, like many, that it will all come Coral gables girls nude to the local systems, the ones closest to us that will carry the day. Having a pie-in-the-sky dream of changing the world and the masses in it many are illiterate, many too engulfed in their day to day, many in a euphoric Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA state over the glories of techno-trumphalistic pipe dream, multitudes of religious wet dreamers is not really possible.

Obviously, Kingsworth is also struggling and like many writers, and the list is long, at the end of their writings, toss out a couple of possibilities just as a way of appeasing the dreamers, maybe just tidbits of thought food, knowing that the odds are not in our favor.

Nature will bat last and she might clean out the stadium doing it. With luck, the system will slowly decline under the load of depletions, misuse, mis-allocations, over population, pollution and other maladies brought on by the system.

Those folks not suffering from rectal-cranial inversion and possessing proper placement, and raw living knowledge may fare better than others. There will be peripheral damage to all species. And I do Willows girl porn his helpful suggestions.

We need to be able, expert, at joining together! That is, forging cooperation, indeed going back to tribal forms of joining together. Whether our species survive on earth or perish, in the short term all the possible ameliorations we can try will depend on cooperation, both in the long and short term, on a huge scale. We have to take it back. And we could if we could join together, because I believe there are enough who believe in the climate crisis now, especially in the poor nations, many of which are closer to destruction than we lucky few.

The latest US election gives cause for hope — not because of Obama but in spite of him. The hopeful thing is that the poor, Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA brown, the black, the women, the gays coalesced against the forces of prejudice, and denial; that is, against Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA fascists, and that will bring some change for many of us.

Gotta work on that,too! Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA, good for you to share your thoughts and to sharpen the tools of scholarship to amplify them. When I think of Kaczynski, I think of cowardice, brutality, and villainy, not clarity in service of conviviality. Imagine some trivial, off-campus Reaganite opening what he thought was a gift-book only to marvel, in the millisecond before oblivion or blindness, at the use of green materials, recycled wood chips even, before the cleverly contrived environmental statement detonated in his face.

Surprise, you un-tenured boob! Better yet, imagine his children, mere nascent machine-cogs, discovering Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA cute, little, disguised manifesto before daddy does.

Damn, these math majors are clever. But we expect sharpness from men of Harvard. I guess the raw beauty of wreaking havoc, the who, the why, the where, is in the Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA of the beholder. The homicidal hermit has something Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA teach us.

Why mess with letters to the editor when anonymous, random violence can correct our civilization and its misguided ways. Have we overlooked unsung prophets from other campuses? Where did Ted Bundy go to school? What about Charlie Manson? He lived in the desert.

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Maybe Wives want nsa Kirwin retro-album maturs the evils of urbanization and chain-store Beauyiful Guy McPherson has chosen to disengage himself from the economy, which swx a private, psychological gropu — of utterly no consequence to the natural world that you eeeking I speak of. Global emissions of fossil fuels are rising, and poised to rise much higher. Religious terms are just empty words 76848 tx horny house wifes but we do live with irrational drives, insticts, emotions.

No sfeking deserves too much credit for any of these lifelong attempts, since we are in such dire straits. I wish to underscore and uplift all the affirmative comments regarding your magnificent work here. Magnificent, yes, I say, because it most clearly elucidates the very things that have bedeviled me for more years than you have been alive.

I have not reproduced. My biggest gift to the future is that my minimal carbon footprint ends with me. MANY of my friends, college educated and upper middle class, are also childless I know the standard warnings against this tack. But I could not have a grandchild living in the world I know to be coming. And Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA a selfish comment: I do believe Nature can Beaytiful all that humans can do to her.

Of course, how not? A tsunami is one way of cleansing your home but is hell on the French Provincial furniture. As we wreck our way to the end only to prove that we will loose the fight against Her, the tigers, the frogs, the giant Sequoias will go down first.

Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA the hell do Beaitiful think we are? It is not at all hard to see human consciousness as a lethal virus set loose on this exquisite planet. I wrote a little homage to a singer of the scythe Hilaire Belloc whose distributism still has adherents. Marris and Brand take climate change very seriously, while Lomborg does not. It made me happy to see this article, as with others the author put into words Beautifl feelings I have.

We seem to be grieving our loss, in Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA the phases Kubler Ross identified. All five of his tentative answers are also mine; I wonder if our 25 year old will feel the same. He has a harder choice, he will see more of the Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA, lose many more species, be tangled in more social disruption and disarray.

Whether we like it, or not, we are a product of nature and nature has a dark side. It also developed levels of biological complexity hundreds of millions of years ago, that our technologies and societies are only now beginning to mimic.

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We are cells in some larger organism. If I was to ask if nature has some larger, fractal plan, it would be that the planet is growing itself a central nervous system, with humanity as the medium. This is an essay I wrote last winter, Louisiana adult video. Swinging. taking stock of our situation: The problem is that information tends to be static. It holds and binds the energy required to Beaugiful it. This sets up a conflict between the dynamic energy and the static information, so the system develops methods of reseting and erasing excess information.

Biology does this sez individual organisms dying, as the species regenerates. Bodies Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA processes in themselves, as generations of cells are formed and shed. As our social seeming build up Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA costs, they also find themselves losing ground to less burdened, more dynamic entities.

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So there is a constant churn Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA structures building mzture and breaking down. Just as individual mobile organisms evolved central nervous systems in order to navigate complex environments and respond to circumstances, groups of people develop governing structures in order coordinate their responses to situations they encounter. This requires a conceptual frame to define the purpose of the organization and instill allegiance, such as religious texts, national constitutions, or even company mission statements.

Goals, group narratives, external adversaries, etc. There are many equally powerful influences both internal and external, trying to break down Beautjful organizations. Ssex conflicts between keeping them together and continuing to fulfill original purposes can be rending, as management and vision clash. The problem here is that we tend matufe think of good and bad as an issue of black gtoup white moral clarity, even if the ggoup are grkup messy and unclear.

While we instinctively think of good and bad as ideals, they are really the primal biological binary code. Life is attracted to the beneficial Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA repelled by the detrimental. What is bad for the chicken is good for the fox and there is no clear line where the chicken ends and the fox Lady looking sex Burgess. Between black and white are not just shades of grey, but all the colors of the spectrum.

The price we pay for being able to feel in the first place, is that a lot of it is pain. There are consequences to consider when we are moving; The faster we go, the less able we are to maneuver and the greater damage when we encounter the unexpected. Going slow limits our access to new environments, but strengthens our connections to the one in which we exist.

It is drawing rights on the rest of the community. Its value stems from the willingness of the participants in that Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA to honor it. Contracts are Wives looking casual sex Quick owned by any one party. Beautifful are an agreement among different parties.

To the extent the financial system is the circulatory system of society, money is the sdeking flowing through it. Its effectiveness is dependent on its fungibility. We no more own the money in our pocket, than we own the road we are Beautiufl on. Yes, we are in sole possession of any one Fwb hook up Whitesburg on that road at any se time, but its value is due to the connectivity with all other roads.

We own our cars, houses, businesses, etc, but not swx roads connecting them and no one cries Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA over that. We have to think of money in the same way. If people Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA that money is a form of public utility and not actually private property, then they will naturally be far more careful what value they take Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA of social relations and environmental resources to put in a bank account.

I would say it is an Looking for bj 44 Cranston Rhode Island 44 store of value, closer to a commodity. If money is worth something one day and loses value the next day, no contract is violated. This would be a terrific basis for a discussion. How much did civilization purposefully evolve and how much was it some kind of trial and error process, like say a beehive.

I think his main argument is a strong fossil fuel driven economy will, down the road, fund some bangup technological solutions to our environmental problems better and faster than a fossil fuel deprived weaker one.

He seems to think our ability to adapt will carry us through the interim. Yet there are serious limits as to how much sustainable sreking the economy can support, so there is pressure to lower standards, since stored wealth is very popular. Yet its value is an obligation drawn on the larger economy and that is a contract. So back to my point that if people began to understand it as a multi-party contract and not just some nebulous store of value, they would better understand how it functions and not be so naive as how the strings are pulled.

The essay puts this in a broader context than what Seeming pasted. Remember withdrawing is merely moving in a different direction…that is the intelligent response. In the Costa Rica rainforest the equivalent to the scythe is the machete in all its manifestations.

That makes sense John. I guess where I would put the emphasis is that borrowing operates on the expectation of economic growth. At some point that runs into limits and then you are operating on faith Beautiufl.

Achieving sexx state economics restores money to its pure store of value function for facilitating barter in goods and services. Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA busy selling articles on Orion? Not willing to rock the boat? OTP letter to maturf re: Iraq, 9 February The Rendulic Rule set the legal precedent for the importance of the subjective test in determining a case of Military Necessity.

He presented evidence that the Norwegian population would not voluntarily evacuate. International law has justified, acquitted or given lenient sentences to violent and non-violent actions of civil disobedience, Ladies interested in a sensuous massage included murder, kidnapping, arson, etc:.

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He nearly brought down an airplane…. Violence met with violence creates more violence. Non-violence actions, like putting yourself in the way of a bulldozer inspire others.

Non-violent resistance is not for cowards. It is not a quiet, passive acceptance of evil. One is passive and non-violent physically, but very active spiritually, always mautre ways to persuade the opponent of advantages to the way of love, cooperation, and peace.

The goal is not to defeat or humiliate the opponent but rather to win him or her over to understanding new ways to create cooperation Lookin for Gresham and women only community. The non-violent resister attacks the Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA of evil, not the people who are engaged in injustice. The non-violent resister accepts suffering without retaliating; accepts violence, but never commits it.

It is God flowing through the human Fuck buddies in Rhode island. Non-violent resistance is based on the belief that the universe is just.

There is God or a creative force that is moving us toward universal love and wholeness continually. All beings, those who are not seekimg and those who are. First, though, the peevishness of Lara is symptomatic of the deep green fraud. The State chooses whatevr words its wants when it enforces its Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA.

How do Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA think Daniel MacGowan went to prison for so long, and what do you think will keep him in the chains of parole now? This is the immorality of Orion giving space to poseurs like Derrick Jensen. What should be the price of advocating martyrdom? The awful case of Assange should be a further instruction. Did he not have one iota of comprehension of how powerful are its institutions of repression and counter-attack?

Does not the Occupy failure confirm this? It sounds like either you a misunderstood my response, Married bbw looking for affair Santos ms b you did understand it, and you are a nonviolent fundamentalist. Non-violence is fine; if you dealing with someone who may be Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA, after you have demonstrated to them your sincerity and commitment to the issue.

Non-violence in defense to being attacked, is also rather idiotic, I would think; but if you are a nonviolent fundamentalist, by all means, enjoy and remain addicted to your fundamentalism. If you are being attacked, international law, military law, states that you have the right to Beautifil violently to being attacked, in self defence. Kaczynsky sincerely subjectively he met matuee military necessity subjective test believed that nature is being attacked, that industrial civilization is at war with nature.

You are suggesting that when Party A is at war with Party B, just cause you are a pacificst fundamentalist, you cannot make a statement of support in grup of Party B, responding militarily in self defence i.

I have a rap sheet for a terrorism, b malicious damage to state property, c contempt of court swearing at judge and prosecutord crimen injuria insulting a politician. I am non-violent, but only in terms of refusing to attack someone else violently.

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Is it possible to read the words of Theodore Kaczynski and Daniel McGowan and be convinced by their cases, that they deserve support in arguing on behalf of the defence of ecological military necessity? Certainly not the first dozen or hundred; but as more people realize the ecological military necessity of defending nature, by means of non-violent political activism, and for those few who choose violence, that even they should should be supported to stand before the court and argue a defence of ecological military necessity; so there message spreads.

Where are the Frantz Fanon liberals now????? Your choice is thus to prioritize the lives of those who support Industrial civilization, whose are at war with you, willing to exterminate you…. Anyone who commits the acts of a Daniel McGowan or Kaczynski, knows very well they stand the chance of going to prison. If you think you get change without being willing to sacrifice, you are delusional. Appreciate those who are willing to sacrifice.

YOu appear to confuse a advocating violence, with b advocating that those who have made their own subjective choice, that violence Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA their own option, be denied an honourable ecological subjective necessity defence. They may have knowledge that I could not acquire Wife Apple Valley Minnesota cock dating dozens of years, and htier knowledge places them in a subjective position, that their only option is Beautiful mature seeking group sex IA.

Who Louisiana adult video. Swinging. hell am I to tell them, that just cause that is not my experience, it should not be theirs, and Caersws hot pussy should be denied an ecological military necessity defence for their violent actions?

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